TOTP: The Story Of 1984 (2/6/17: 9pm)

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TOTP: The Story Of 1984 (2/6/17: 9pm)

Gorgeous Daze
Onwards and even upwards I believe for a few of us as we move into the mid eighties. Leading us dance-free and ever more be-mulletedly towards the benighted SAW era. The horror. The horror actually welcomed through the door this year before it discarded its Hi-NRG cloak and sucked the life out of pop. For me if the year was reduced to T-shirts frankly I don't give a damn what Frankie says beyond their first two singles and if I want Life-affirming I certainly wouldn't Choose Wham! But to name a few I am looking forward to chart newcomers Scritti Politti, Propaganda, Shannon...and that Madonna woman was pretty fit as I recall. Oh and PLEASE don't let Sandie Shaw with The Smiths be skipped!

It's the year that new romanticism faded out while stadium rock and power ballads edged closer to the vacuum, waiting for Live Aid. Marked as it was for some kind of totalitarianism instead 1984 was the most nondescript year since 76 and the beginning of this journey of repeats. The sounds were commercial but not yet cynical and though those moments may get fewer and further between what pleasure can still be found in being reacquainted with half-forgotten visual and sonic companions and their attendant memories. The Zoo has closed down leaving behind the elephant in the room of this forum's raison e'tre, so it's always heartening to hear a degree of reappraisal from those who've historically looked on this era as mainly one to endure.

In a way that strangely mirrors the time it deals with the further we go the less there seems to be left to the imagination ahead of these 'Story Of' curtain-raisers. But I've yet to find one anything less than absorbing and I don't expect that it will be tonight's offering that changes that. Here's to 84. Let's take Legsfan's hand through waters whether calm or choppy and pick up gems along the way.
Steve
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Legsfan
Thanks for the write up Gorgeous Daze.
1984, surrely we can't be here already. If the BBC had kept to the original plan we would be in June 1982 with Kid Jensen presenting ABC, Adam Ant, Charlene and Madness (to name a few)
Obviously I don't have a clue what the real world 1984 was like, but I must say that throughout the TOTP years my interest is getting less and less, but this year looks like I will have the same enthusiasm as last year.
1984 is also a sad year as we say goodbye to some regular presenters that we have gotten to know, most notably David Jensen who had his first edition unfortunately wiped, but this year we will see his last regular appearance. We also say goodbye to Dave Lee Travis who unfortunately was robbed of his right to have his repeats screened. The late Tommy Vance also leaves us this year which is a shame as he has only been presenting since 1980. Finally Andy Peebles says goodbye after only regularly doing the show for about a year, but we all remember when he did it back in 1979 and I got the impression that he was definately a stand in who didn't want to be there.
This is the end of the road for the old Top of the pops with the 1970s finest presenters.
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Colm
Sandie and three quarters of The Smiths kicked off the 28/4/1984 edition, which, as hosted by Simon Bates and Janice Long, will be shown soon on BBC Four...
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Gorgeous Daze
Yippee!
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Everything'sRosie
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If I remember correctly, in a twist from the norm, Sandie wore shoes and The Smiths went bare-footed.
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Legsfan
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Colm wrote
Sandie and three quarters of The Smiths kicked off the 28/4/1984 edition, which, as hosted by Simon Bates and Janice Long, will be shown soon on BBC Four...
The full edition with  Sandie at the beginning can be found here https://vimeo.com/181938077
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Old Grey Whistler
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I expect that will be plenty about Mike Read and Frankie, and a certain news report from Michael Buerk will probably feature. If we are particularly unlucky, we might get a glimpse of Arthur Scargill as well.
I'm not sure that I know what GD is referring to when he talks about cynical music, but in my opinion the music industry became cynical and commercialised from the moment the charts were created. Take 'The Jam' as an example. Supposedly anti Thatcherism yet quite happy to use the sort of cynical marketing ploys that Maggie would have probably approved of to get their songs up the charts.
I do feel that it is a shame that most of you seemed to give up on music at an early age. For me the best years of the 80's are still to come, and there was certainly more than just SAW, although whether that will be reflected in the British charts, I will have to wait and see.
Without Legs & Co, there would be no show!
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Legsfan
At the beginning of The Story of 1984, an excerpt from the 20th anniversary edition is shown with David Jensen and John Peel introducing Frankie Goes To Hollywood, well the DJ links on that edition were missing as it was another live edition.
I have had confirmation from the BBC that those links and the ones on the official show which we will see next week were provided by our very own VintageVideos and handed into the BBC archive by myself earlier in the year. Another Vin Legsfan colabboration has helped get a missing links edition on BBC Four.
Thank you Vin for generously donating the missing links.
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The Rubberband Man
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I expect that will be plenty about Mike Read and Frankie......
Mike had a few seconds on Frankie, where he chose to rewrite history and claim that he didn't ban "Relax". He just didn't play it because there wasn't enough time left   
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Gorgeous Daze
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By cynical OGW I was thinking of the SAW era. Yes it's a qualitative judgment but I think that never before had such factory-churned drivel been peddled so remorselessly at the undemanding .Good point about leftists like Weller more than willing to play the capitalist game!

Ridiculous of Mike Read to brush his own well-documented ban under the carpet. I'd expect better of him.



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The Rubberband Man
Another thing they went on about was the use of hand held cameras to film stuff in 1984, even though hand held cameras had been used to film L&C in "Hold On Tight" and "Slow Hand" back in 1981. Had the BBC forgotten about those performances?  
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CoffeeThing
Attendant memories says it all for me GD. Having not been a massive fan of the early 80s stuff, probably as I mourned the ever further away glorious days if 70s music with its up beat feel good factor and the beautiful girls dancing along, I began to enjoy things again from around '84 until the end or so of the decade. It's not that the music got particularly better, but I came of age and the attendant memories began to attach again in a way they probably hadn't since my younger years. There were a lot of changes going on in the early '80s so I think perhaps less happy memories.

The summer of '84 on was a good time full of memories of otherwise average tunes that touch the heart strings as I remember hot days and holidays. I still miss the girls though and the halcyon days of my '70s youth.
This week, I are be mostly drinking piccolos
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Gorgeous Daze
Identical it seems to how I feel about 84, CT. 'Take them or leave them' tunes come with a warm glow in the context of having the time of my life. Heck, even Agadoo had me smiling at an attendant memory!
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PattiForPM
Yup I was having a great time in 1984 and it has happy memories but from a music perspective I was only really into the "big names" that year as far as I can recall and for me Born in the USA put everything else in the shade
Some Dancers who gave a good time, broke all the rules, played all the fools, yeah yeah yeah they blew our minds
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AC/PD
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Gorgeous Daze wrote
Good point about leftists like Weller more than willing to play the capitalist game!
See also Rainforest plight highlighter Sting and his private jet.

I'm looking forward to an overall upward trend in '84 after the slight dip in quality that was '83.
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Dancer
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Watched this last night and so enjoyed it, I have kept it.  Every song was fantastic bar Agadoo.  Their other song Gang Bang was much better but these stupid dance routines to this drove me mad as replicated in the Birdie Song in 1981.

1984 seemed to really "kick ass" as 1983 seemed to meander along with songs that were relatively forgetful but with Frankie Goes to Hollywood they certainly made a huge impact.  Holly Johnson had a most beautiful voice and as I always told him ten years on he should have done musicals with a vocal range like his.  Good to hear about Mike Read not banning the song.  I always felt that was questionable because automatically any song that was banned was instant top 5 as the record buying public purchased it out of curiosity.  Two Tribes equally was excellent as was The Power Of Love.  They really gave Boy George the elbow.  What is more pleasing is that Holly Johnson is still here today as when he did his one book session in 1994, he was really ill and I could only use the word "brave" here as he stayed in Waterstones for a full two hours, reading one chapter from his book and then signing each one for us with a personal message.  A very well mannered man who even though was poorly was happy to have photos taken with him.

Madonna certainly made a big impact too in this year and she was so full of energy and anyone with an ear for music could see that she had longevity.  When her Lucky Star track was released earlier the previous year you knew she had the perfect voice.

Bronski Beat also were excellent.  Jimmy Somerville had a really unusual, catchy voice.  Did not know that Smalltown Boy was about him.

Morrisey/Smiths too were very good and from memory remember Mom going off Barry Manilow and would become a fan of Morrisey which I found bizarre.  Now I can see why because his voice really was excellent.

Style Council fantastic too.

A really fantastic year and one which I look forward to watching.

As a footnote I do think it was in very bad taste to show footage of the late Prime Minister having eggs thrown at her.  Really unnecessary footage.  
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CoffeeThing
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PattiForPM wrote
Yup I was having a great time in 1984 and it has happy memories but from a music perspective I was only really into the "big names" that year as far as I can recall and for me Born in the USA put everything else in the shade
Oh yes, absolutely, PFPM. I bought the Born in the USA tape and played it to death, closely followed by the Live 75-85 collection on vinyl including the energetic rendition of War complete with that intro and his explosive vocal that opened the song. Brilliant.
This week, I are be mostly drinking piccolos
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